2007 football schedules

**imported_Hokies4Ever** · June 17th, 2007, 12:48 PM

If he was 4.7 VT wouldnt look at him for WR or DB. Plus just look at his stride he doesnt look as fast as he really is.

**imported_mega** · June 17th, 2007, 02:15 PM

dude Anquan Bolden runs a 4.7 and Im pretty sure VT would offer him lol.

You do realize Devin Hester only runs a 4.43 right?

**1inStripes** · June 17th, 2007, 02:27 PM

According to HokieHaven.com Fuller isn't 4.5.

Wide Receiver
Richlands (VA) Richlands High

Ht: 6-foot-2
Wt: 190 lbs
Forty: 4.69 secs
GPA: 3.5
Class: 2008 (High School)

**imported_biggamesjames** · June 17th, 2007, 08:21 PM

I think you are misunderstanding my point. I wasn't trying to take anything away from pv they deserve the championships they've won and yes a couple of those teams maybe could have won the AA title as well. I was just trying to point out that the VHSL's system has really hurt Haysi and costed them a couple of championships. They are just slightly larger than Appy but have had to play div 2 all these years and have been close to if not the smallest div 2 school in the state all the while. PV has not been affected as much by the gross unfairness of the system because they are a pretty decent sized div 2 school. What is even more unfair is that all this time Haysi has been div 2 over half of the div 1 schools in the state have been larger. How can anyone in the world claim that is fair?

Once again I will just point out that Thomas Jones DID indeed start in '93. He started at TAILBACK in the Haysi game. I have the tape if anyone wants to see it. Greg Bishop started too but it was at wingback. Jones had more carries than any other PV back in that game...but Bishop did have the long TD run. I think Jones scored the other PV td on a shorter run but I would have to check the tape again to verify that.

**sup-rbeast** · June 17th, 2007, 10:10 PM

Jones at tailback and Bishop at a wing back vs. Haysi was a wrinkle Robbins put in to try to compensate for a poor line. I don't think that was used in any regular season games and was designed to free Bishop up for bigger runs. Most in the Valley have always believed that Phil basically started building for the 94 season after the 93 regular season was over. But, most recognize that the 93 team didn't have the line play to go any furter than they did either. And, I wasn't knocking Haysi either...all I was saying is that until recently there wasn't that much difference for Division 1..and really once a school is big enough to be Division 2, there should be enough kids to field as good a football team as if they had 100-150 more kids. That's just my opinion..but the bigger the classification, the better the chance of a smaller school within that division to play with other teams in the same division.

**imported_blue52** · June 17th, 2007, 10:46 PM

How many students does Haysi have?

**cvcgrad** · June 18th, 2007, 08:29 AM

Any idea on how many times Haysi and Powell Valley have played in say the last 15 years and the win/loss record?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VHSLhelper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">cvcgrad : about Haysi-PV : impossible. They didn't play in the regular season when the Jones' were there.
Seems like sup-r is saying that the '93 team couldn't have beaten Giles.

pre-Jones era :
1990 - Haysi loses season opener to PV, which goes 14-0.
1991 - Haysi wins season opener; PV goes 5-5.
Thomas era :
1993 - Haysi wins playoff game, then loses to Giles - TJ was player of the year
1994 - Haysi loses playoff game - PV wins state - TJ was PoY again
Julius era :
1995 - Haysi loses playoff game - PV wins state - JJ made all Region D.
1996, 97, 98 - didn't meet. </div></div>

**imported_Counts** · June 18th, 2007, 09:45 AM

I have to agree with BJG on this look at the Haysi 05 team there is no doubt that that team was better than the Burton Team that made the State game and IF Haysi had been in any other reagion in the state they would have been Div 1.......NOW I am not saying that Haysi would have won the state championship in Div1 that year BUT they would have had a shot.

Look at Richlands as well last year they were as domanating a team as I have seen in SWVA and while they did bring back the state crown last year vs a much larger opponet it was a super clase game and Schools cant load up teams like that ever year (or even ever 3 or 4 years)

**imported_biggamesjames** · June 18th, 2007, 10:11 AM

"and really once a school is big enough to be Division 2, there should be enough kids to field as good a football team as if they had 100-150 more kids."

That's my point. Haysi was in Div 2 all these years when they would have been div 1 if they had been in any other region in the state. So in reality they were not big enough to be in div 2 under a fair system. I agree with part of what you are saying. A school with 300 kids should be able to field a good football team and be able to compete against schools with 400 to 500 kids. Haysi has done that over and over again year after year. But when you get into that 600 to 700 area then it gets a little tougher and schools with 300 kids like Haysi have a much harder time on a consistent basis than say somebody like PV or Lebanon. Schools with 600 and 700 kids are able to have 11 different starters on both offense and defense. Schools like Haysi have too many guys going both ways to compete with that. Heck even a middle sized div 2 school like PV usually only has 1 or 2 guys going both ways. I remember my sr year when we beat them down at Bullitt most of what we heard afterward was about how young they were. Yes that was probably true but when you look over on their sideline and they have 75 to 80 guys dressed out it's hard to feel sorry for them very long. We dressed out 29 guys that year. We had 7 guys playing both ways. I don't know if PV even had 1.

**imported_biggamesjames** · June 18th, 2007, 10:29 AM

I don't think Haysi would've won the div 1 state championship in '05 Counts. William Campbell was too tough. I do believe they would have been runner up though. I think Haysi would've also been runner-up in '04 but would've had a shot against Franklin. I believe they would've made the state semi-finals in '03 before losing to Bath County. I believe '94 and '91 would have been state championship years. '94 would have been a great game with Appy but I believe Haysi had the advantage. In '91 no division 1 team in the state would've had much of a chance(Appy would've been toughest game with Clark and Radio). '93 would have been a region championship loss to Appy instead of a region championship win over PV. Clintwood would've had their shots as well. '96 and '99 come to mind.